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Debate tests for Obama, Palin

Looking ahead to Thursday's vice presidential debate, I'm going to differ with my colleague Paul Gullixson who says both candidates lost the first presidential debate. I don't think either candidate "won," but Barack Obama passed a significant test. He spoke credibly on foreign policy, which is clearly John McCain's best issue. He wasn't the one who botched the names of foreign leaders, and he scored points with his jibe that McCain speaks as if the Iraq war started in 2007 with the surge rather than in 2003. What does Obama get for passing the test? More time to talk to conservative Democrats and independents who might have been lost if he performed badly. These are the voters who will decide the election. And he still needs to make that sale.

What does that have to do with Thursday's debate in St. Louis?

Sarah Palin faces a similar test. She must show a better grasp of national issues than she did in her interview last week on the CBS Evening News. Her answers need to be more sophisticated than, "I'm all about the position that America is in and that we have to look at a $700 billion bailout." As with Obama, the bar isn't terribly high. But she needs to clear it if her early personal appeal is going to translate into traction with those same voters in the middle. A poor performance might even hurt her on the Republican right, where some commentators already have suggested replacing her on the ticket.

-- Jim Sweeney

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Posted By: michael koepf (01/10/2008 7:59:55 AM)
Comment: Retort: Dear Sports Writer, let us be honest. An editorial writer who attempts to pass him or herself off as an unbiased voice of public comment while they are, in fact, biased to one political view point over another, is an editorial writer who views the world all too simply. The world is not simple. Politics are not a team sport. Now to Sarah Palin, the current dart board of liberal wrath because she is not an aging, joyless feminist. CSNBC has long since ceased to be a credible cable news channel because of its flagrant liberal bias, so Joe Scarborugh, who makes his money there, is irrelevant. He did say that "Palin was out of her league" when interviewed by Katie Couric, and Rich Lowry did characterize Palin as "dreadful" but neither said she should "drop out" of the race as internet bloggers and their liberal echoes in the main stream media have suggested. Kathleen Parker did say Palin should "drop out" after the Couric interview, but it was offered as hyperbole in a column meant to underscore the viscous criticisms that have been heaped on Palin by feminists. So, even allowing for literalness, that leaves one conservative for Palin to "drop out" of the race and two who were critical of her response to a liberal interviewer. Hardly, a ground swell, but loony, Internet bloggers, and prejudiced mainstream journalists wearing transparent masks of objectivity are doing all they can to make larger waves. Good luck....And now a word about Gwen Ifill, who is about to relase a pro Obama book, and who will question Sarah Palin tomorrow night during the VP debate.

Posted By: michael koepf (30/09/2008 8:14:24 AM)
Comment: Okay, perhaps it's time to send this editor down stairs to the sports desk for a few weeks where issues are more simplicticly black and white. "He (Obama) spoke credibly on foreign policy..." Let's see, Obama wants to bond with the Hitler of Iran and blame both sides for Putin's invasion of Georgia? That's his credibility on foreign policy? Look, it's okay to be in the tank for Obama, but, please, don't tell readers that something that did no happen actually did. Also, you mention the bar not being very high for Palin, with no mention of her vice presidential opponent. Does he have a bar? Does he have a free pass at the PD? Isn't this sexist? And, as to the "Republican right" (sec) suggesting that Palen be replaced, that is an outright mistruth that originated on "Far Left" blogs by taking comment out of context. Even if one is partisan they should be honest.

Response: Here are a few recent comments about Sarah Palin from Republicans, including a direct call for her to withdraw: Joe Scarborough, a former Republican congressman from Florida who now appears on MSNBC, said she "just seems to be out of her league" on national issues. Rich Lowry, editor of the National Review (the magazine founded by William F. Buckley), called her performance "dreadful" and warned that without improvement, "she risks damaging her political brand forevermore." Kathleen Parker, a conservative columnist whose writing appears in the National Review, the Washington Post and other publications, said Palin should drop out to save "McCain, her party and the country she loves." As for Biden, yes, there is a test for him, too, and we'll address that in an editorial in Thursday's paper. As you might imagine it involves his habit of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time. -- Jim Sweeney